Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2017 - PORTUGAL WINS !!!

**Wojtek** Thu May 18, 2017 8:11 pm

If you didn't know...

This year top 3 was very interesting because:
Portugal won for the first time ever and debutet in the top 3
Bulgaria's 2nd place it's their highest place ever and also debutet in the top 3
Moldova's 3rd place it's their highest place ever and also debutet in the top 3

Both Bulgaria and Moldova are participating since 2005

After Portugal's winning only Iceland and small countries like Malta and San Marino are yet to win from Western Europe

**Wojtek** Thu May 18, 2017 9:00 pm

What a loser

http://wiwibloggs.com/2017/05/18/romania-alex-florea-salvador-sobral-cheap-theatrics/189955/

**kleftokotou** Thu May 18, 2017 11:29 pm

What an a@#@%^@&@!!
He says "from my point of view, Salvador doesn’t have heart problems, but head issues" so Alex is a doctor, examined Salvador and has that opinion, right? So Salvador according to dr Alex has mental issues...and a person with mental issues does not deserve to win a song contest!!

OK! I will try to keep this short!! A person's health issues are private and NOBODY has the right to talk about them in public!
Not all televoters read the tabloinds, most people I know that voted Salvador had no idea about this!!
Salvador would have won no matter what..it was Portugal's momment, his moment!! And he lies..Salvador did many intervies in Kiev!!!
SO Alex ....the most cheap deceitful thing in this year contest was your song!!! SALVADOR WON FAIR AND SQUARE!!! GEt over it!!

**Wojtek** Fri May 19, 2017 1:46 pm

kleftokotou wrote:
SO Alex ....the most cheap deceitful thing in this year contest was your song!!!

His opinions are on the same worthless level as his song

Unfortunately he's not alone in this ridiculous statement, there are many haters.
If health reasons would be really so helpful to be the winner then why polish girl on wheelchair in 2015 was just 23rd? Our polish commentator said about Salvador's illness not earlier than after his winning and still he was 2nd in polish televoting.

**kleftokotou** Sat May 20, 2017 4:08 pm

I wish this was our entry!!! I love it! Guys what do you think?

**Wojtek** Sun May 21, 2017 2:01 pm

kleftokotou wrote:I wish this was our entry!!! I love it! Guys what do you think?

I like it! This is Athens right? So many graffitis...

**Wojtek** Sun May 21, 2017 2:04 pm

Salvador as 10 y.o, kiddo

He finished 7th in portuguese version of Idol in 2009

**kleftokotou** Sun May 21, 2017 2:55 pm

Wojtek wrote:...

I like it! This is Athens right? So many graffitis...

Yes, it's downtown Athens! You will see some amazing ones!!
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**Milka** Wed May 24, 2017 7:43 pm

JEANP wrote:
Wojtek wrote:
JEANP wrote:
Wojtek wrote:Bye bye
I like them. They were good host for me

I liked this blonde guy
Personally I prefered the other one ^^

Personally I didn't like either Laughing

**Milka** Wed May 24, 2017 7:53 pm

kleftokotou wrote:The televoters voted Finland into the final but the juries thought otherwise!!!
You can see the full results above!

I'm actually shocked by this. I thought that the juries would deffo appreciate Finland this year.
I still don't get what happened. But this is now the third time this happens to Finland, that juries are the one to blame.

So my personal opinion is that JURIES CAN GO TO HELL Laughing

The were brought in to make it more fair but actually it has gotten worse. Juries are way more bias than I first thought.
I mean for the love of god Finland giving SWEDEN 12 points. AGAIN!!!! What the hell???!!!!!

Televoters in Finland gave Portugal 12p, Belgium 10p and Italy 8p and Bulgaria 7p.
Now that's fair and not just voting your neighbours. But oh, our juries I just don't get them.

As for Portugal winnig, I'M SO HAPPY!!!!!!!! cheers

I was certain that Italy would have this in the bag, but then I saw the perfomance and it was just flat.

**Wojtek** Thu May 25, 2017 9:58 pm

Same here, I was sure that Finland would be top 3 in juries voting, 12th place is a shock!

I don't think that juries voting was more biased than televoting but it was not better.

Did I have to mention that Poland was 4th time in a row in the bottom 5 of juries voting? I guess that polish people lost hope that we will ever be appriaciated by them.

On the other hand televoting was not good at all as well.
3rd place for Moldova? 5th place for Romania? 9th place for Croatia? People loves cheap and trashy entries! This is scary...

**kleftokotou** Fri May 26, 2017 3:54 am

Wojtek wrote:.......Did I have to mention that Poland was 4th time in a row in the bottom 5 of juries voting? I guess that polish people lost hope that we will ever be appriaciated by them.
....

There was a discussion about that on TV, they came to the conclusion that EBU has something against Poland and Hungary because they both are ignored by they juries every single year and I believe it, too! I don't know if i's politics or something else! Question

As for Finland, we can see by the results that "Blackbird" was sacrificed for Australia!! Juries gave Australia second place in the semi, Laughing

please!!!!!!!!

**JEANP** Fri May 26, 2017 5:09 pm

kleftokotou wrote:
Wojtek wrote:...

I like it! This is Athens right? So many graffitis...

Yes, it's downtown Athens! You will see some amazing ones!!

Athens looks so beautifull. I listened the song and personally we don't have song like that in France but i really enjoyed it. It would be great to have it in the semi-final.

**JEANP** Fri May 26, 2017 5:12 pm

Wojtek wrote:Same here, I was sure that Finland would be top 3 in juries voting, 12th place is a shock!

I don't think that juries voting was more biased than televoting but it was not better.

Did I have to mention that Poland was 4th time in a row in the bottom 5 of juries voting? I guess that polish people lost hope that we will ever be appriaciated by them.

On the other hand televoting was not good at all as well.
3rd place for Moldova? 5th place for Romania? 9th place for Croatia? People loves cheap and trashy entries! This is scary...

Personally I did not look the lyrics with attention but in terms of rythm I enjoyed the songs of Moldova and Romania. The only problem with Romania was the cannon on stage. Why? I don't know ^^ And Moldova's stage was too dark for me.

Sincery I don't understand the jury's choices sometimes. Australia and Sweden so high?! I did not agree. I liked the Australia's song but so high? I don't think so.

**Wojtek** Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:34 pm

**NiKa** Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:21 pm

Polish & Finnish cooperation I love you

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