Re: *** Miss Universe 2012 - Final Hot Picks ***

**Milka** Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:56 pm

I am truly truly sorry, but I just got informed that I had the wrong lady's picture for Colombia.
I have now changed her to the right one.

New picture in the original message
http://pageant-mania.ephpbb.com/t6135p160-miss-universe-2012-pre-arrival-hot-picks#179074

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**cloud9** Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:50 pm

no philippines in the hotspicks? well lets see in the coming days...

**Milka** Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:14 pm

PAGEANT MANIA'S *** Miss Universe 2012 - Final Hot Picks *** - Page 9 668680

MISS UNIVERSE 2012
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FINAL HOT PICKS santa

Judge's *** Miss Universe 2012 - Final Hot Picks *** - Page 9 523890

Didana Acivakuk - Bosnia & Herzegovina

marievause - UK

Reyna_USA - Puerto Rico

SSchwarzgruber - Venezuela

dakkudaddy - India

Likok - Serbia

ovidius - Greece

nts777 - Greece
Milka - Finland

Wojtek - Poland

JULI- Czech Republic

Pavlina - Colombia

222222 -Thailand

Del - Germany

eja - Sweden

ariesgirl - Australia

scotty2hotty - USA

kleftokotou - Greece

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Pointing System rendeer

Rank 1 - 16 pts
Rank 2 - 15 pts
Rank 3 - 14 pts
Rank 4 - 13 pts
Rank 5 - 12 pts
Rank 6 - 11 pts
Rank 7 - 10 pts
Rank 8 - 09 pts
Rank 9 - 08 pts
Rank 10 - 07 pts
Rank 11 - 06 pts
Rank 12 - 05 pts
Rank 13 - 04 pts
Rank 14 - 03 pts
Rank 15 - 02 pts
Rank 16 - 01 pt

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THE RESULTS

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1. Mexico - Karina Gonzales 132p
2. Australia - Renae Ayris 127p
3. USA - Olivia Culpo 125p

4. Poland - Marcelina Zawadzka 115p
5. South Africa - Melinda Bam 112p
6. Greece - Vasiliki Tsirogianni 105p
7. Venezuela - Irene Esser 98p
8. Malaysia - Kimberley Leggett 94p
9. Croatia - Elizabeta Burg 91p
10. Czech Republic - Tereza Chlebovska 79p

11. Colombia - Daniella Alvarez 73p
12. Kosovo - Diana Avdiu 67p
13. Finland - Sara Chafak 66p
14. France - Marie Payet 60p
15. Puerto Rico - Bodine Koehler 57p
16. Phillippines - Janine Tugnon 51p

THE REST:

17. Germany 44
18. Thailand 43
19. Ecuador 41
20. Paraguay 40
21. El Salvador 39
Vietnam 39
23. Norway 33
Russia 33
25. Bahamas 30
26. Spain 29
27. Bolivia 27
Cayman Islands 27
29. Lebanon 20
Sweden 20
31. Haiti 19
32. Hungary 17
33. Georgia 16
Trinidad & Tobago 16
35. Guyana 14
Netherlands 14
UKRAINE 14
38. Guatemala 12
39. New Zealand 11
Panama 11
41. Serbia 10
42. Argentina 9
43. Aruba 8
Chile 8
Gabon 8
Israel 8
Japan 8
48. Sri Lanka 7
49. Tanzania 6
50. Brazil 5
Estonia 5
Italy 5
Jamaica 5
Albania 5
55. Singapore 4
Turkey 4
57. Bulgaria 2
Nicaragua 2
Slovak Republic 2
Uruguay 2

**Del** Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:47 pm

WOW! Sincerely, I don't think that Greece will place. I'd put Malaysia in this place and add Ecuador to this list. Put Finland higher and add Cayman Islands instead of Kosovo. But for the rest this one looks like a very realistic Top 16, and mainly a fantastic Top 3!!!

**Milka** Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:54 pm

Del wrote:WOW! Sincerely, I don't think that Greece will place. I'd put Malaysia in this place and add Ecuador to this list. Put Finland higher and add Cayman Islands instead of Kosovo. But for the rest this one looks like a very realistic Top 16, and mainly a fantastic Top 3!!!

Isn't this the first time Ecuador is out? I was surprised that she took such a drastic fall.

I think she came to Las Vegas being a bit dissapointment, but at least to me she is back on track now.
So I still had her in my TOP5 Smile

I didn't have any of the top3 in my own top16. lol!

I'm such a rebel Laughing

**Wojtek** Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:07 pm

Del wrote:WOW! Sincerely, I don't think that Greece will place. I'd put Malaysia in this place and add Ecuador to this list. Put Finland higher and add Cayman Islands instead of Kosovo. But for the rest this one looks like a very realistic Top 16, and mainly a fantastic Top 3!!!

I don't see Greece make it too. Kosovo did a good job and I can see her even in top 5 (she won Miss Photogenic award). Anyway nice list 11/16.

**JEANP** Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:40 pm

And i forget to vote :'( . i would add Ecuador to the list and el Salvador. I don't think also that miss geeece will be place but she is really beautifull.

Why so much people love USA for me she look just pretty many girls are better than her.

with me France would have the same number of poin ts as Finlands and czech rep and malaysia would have an higer place.

but the top 16 is great and the banner is also great.

**scotty2hotty** Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:22 pm

beautiful banner, well done!!!!

**bestman** Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:43 am

I did not get a pm about any final picks.
But, the top 16 is good, apart from Greece.

**kleftokotou** Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:59 am

bestman wrote:I did not get a pm about any final picks.
But, the top 16 is good, apart from Greece.

Oh...I am so sorry! Crying or Very sad

I send 2 messages to you all! I had they same problem with Wojtek, I had to send him an e-mail!

**marievause** Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:11 am

Wojtek wrote:
Del wrote:WOW! Sincerely, I don't think that Greece will place. I'd put Malaysia in this place and add Ecuador to this list. Put Finland higher and add Cayman Islands instead of Kosovo. But for the rest this one looks like a very realistic Top 16, and mainly a fantastic Top 3!!!

I don't see Greece make it too. Kosovo did a good job and I can see her even in top 5 (she won Miss Photogenic award). Anyway nice list 11/16.

you like miss Kosovo?i wouldnt have her in my top 16. she seems so arrogant and older than she is...

i am surprised that so many people dont have her amongst the top 16( Vasiliki that is) . she is so stylish,the pics speak for themselves, she is nice,beautiful,with one of the best bodies,well educated etc. what has miss Kosovo got to offer for example??? her educational background? the fact that in some pics she looks like she is 25+? just looks! anyway its all about preferences but at times we should be reasonable.

**ovidius** Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:13 am

I'M SO HAPPY FOR GREECE!!!!SHE 'S GOT ALL THE PACKET!!!NATURAL BEAUTY,NICE CATWALK,BEAUTIFUL EVENING GOWN AND PERFECT BODY!!!

**kleftokotou** Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:17 am

As I was counting the votes I was happy to see more votes for Sweden and Finland!
Also it was nice to see Vasiliki apreciated by the forum and not just from the Greeks!
I would add El Salvador, Lebanon and Sweden to the list but I LOVE our top4!!

GREAT job Milka, I was hoping you would use the evening gowns!!!! -hy6-

**kleftokotou** Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:20 am

ovidius wrote:NATURAL BEAUTY...AND PERFECT BODY!!!

A typical Greek girl!!!! Laughing

Seriously the girls from Thessaloniki have that extra special something that I can't explain! Every time I am there I am amazed by how beautiful people are there!

**marievause** Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:26 am

kleftokotou wrote:As I was counting the votes I was happy to see more votes for Sweden and Finland!
Also it was nice to see Vasiliki apreciated by the forum and not just from the Greeks!
I would add El Salvador, Lebanon and Sweden to the list but I LOVE our top4!!

GREAT job Milka, I was hoping you would use the evening gowns!!!!

i think it was difficult to choose this year.

**ariesgirl** Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:24 am

To all those saying Greece is not going to make it to finals. Let me ask this...what are you basing these predictions on or are you psychic or have all your lists in the past been correct?? If your going to make comments like that it would be good if you could back them up with some professional analysis as beauty experts and let us know why you feel Vasiliki is not good enough to make it or is it that your judging her on the fact that Greece has been heavily ignored in recent years which is not fair to Vasiliki because you should be judging her on her own merits and not on Greece's past exclusions...As far as I know no-one knows who is going to make it or not...has everyone forgotten Greece and Malaysia last year who were on everybodys lists..well woww guess what tey actually clapped...!!!!! Lets just respect each others choices because Beauty is subjective after all...having said that I think Vasiliki has it all to progress deep into finals....she's stunning!!!!

**Cyly** Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:50 am

HELLO !!! I am here! Kristiiiiina, let me introduce myself. But I dont get any pm about this hot pick and I was realy interested here Exclamation

**kleftokotou** Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:59 am

Cyly wrote:HELLO !!! I am here! Kristiiiiina, let me introduce myself. But I dont get any pm about this hot pick and I was realy interested here

Well Kristiiiiiiiina, I was expecting your pics and then I thought that perhaps you had Christmas preperations, I had the same problem with Bestman and Wojtek.. I should have e-mailed you, too! *** Miss Universe 2012 - Final Hot Picks *** - Page 9 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSSV09gXStcrgc_gWgupjtgSacBfblRnCstn0J7axvzA4Wn3W0XsdL8TDA

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**Milka** Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:08 pm

I think next time we do this, there should be an announcement on the hot topics thread that PM's have been sent.
That way people can inform if they haven't received it Smile

**kleftokotou** Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:22 pm

Milka wrote:I think next time we do this, there should be an announcement on the hot topics thread that PM's have been sent.
That way people can inform if they haven't received it

Ι was thinking the same!

**bestman** Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:38 pm

ariesgirl wrote:To all those saying Greece is not going to make it to finals. Let me ask this...what are you basing these predictions on or are you psychic or have all your lists in the past been correct?? If your going to make comments like that it would be good if you could back them up with some professional analysis as beauty experts and let us know why you feel Vasiliki is not good enough to make it or is it that your judging her on the fact that Greece has been heavily ignored in recent years which is not fair to Vasiliki because you should be judging her on her own merits and not on Greece's past exclusions...As far as I know no-one knows who is going to make it or not...has everyone forgotten Greece and Malaysia last year who were on everybodys lists..well woww guess what tey actually clapped...!!!!! Lets just respect each others choices because Beauty is subjective after all...having said that I think Vasiliki has it all to progress deep into finals....she's stunning!!!!

This is the hot picks! It has nothing to do with which countries have made the cut recent years.
That is only relevant when making our predictions in PG.

Speaking for myself, I think Greece is lovely. She is just not beautiful enough to be in my hot picks.

**ariesgirl** Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:39 am

bestman wrote:
ariesgirl wrote:To all those saying Greece is not going to make it to finals. Let me ask this...what are you basing these predictions on or are you psychic or have all your lists in the past been correct?? If your going to make comments like that it would be good if you could back them up with some professional analysis as beauty experts and let us know why you feel Vasiliki is not good enough to make it or is it that your judging her on the fact that Greece has been heavily ignored in recent years which is not fair to Vasiliki because you should be judging her on her own merits and not on Greece's past exclusions...As far as I know no-one knows who is going to make it or not...has everyone forgotten Greece and Malaysia last year who were on everybodys lists..well woww guess what tey actually clapped...!!!!! Lets just respect each others choices because Beauty is subjective after all...having said that I think Vasiliki has it all to progress deep into finals....she's stunning!!!!

This is the hot picks! It has nothing to do with which countries have made the cut recent years.
That is only relevant when making our predictions in PG.

Speaking for myself, I think Greece is lovely. She is just not beautiful enough to be in my hot picks.

Exactly my point...this is hot picks BUT people are not respecting other peoples hot picks. Why do they complain that Greece is too high on the list or that Greece wont make the cut...why make negative comments about a candidate...I dont like many candidates in the Hot Picks list but I am not getting on here saying negative comments about them and the fact that I dont feel they should be in the hotpicks....thats pretty nasty....just respect other peoples choices...if a contestant is on the list obviously other people feel that she is beautiful enough to be there so if you dont like her or find her good enough for your hot picks thats your business...

**Milka** Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:45 am

I think it's okey to discuss the choices and voice your opinion on the list.
Like I found it funny that none of the topgirls were even on my top16 list and I said that. Laughing

By saying that or wishin' some of my own choices had made the list, I'm not disrespecting other judges opinions,
I'm just telling my own opinion. We can discuss about it, I don't think we have to be quiet.

I respect all other lists, but I still don't get the hype around Mexico or USA. Shocked

**kleftokotou** Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:56 am

Where is Princess Engla? Suspect

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