Re: ®®MISS UNIVERSE 2017 - OFFICIAL COVERAGE®®

**Wojtek** Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:19 pm

bonner wrote:]size=18]
* The top 16 will comprise of 4 girls from North and South America, 4 from the Europe, 4 girls from Africa and Asia-Oceania with the last 4 wildcard girls coming from any of the continents.[/size]

Well, it's a bigger chance for us European. Last time just France made it and in 2015 just Belgium and France.

**Luiz Ricardo Cruz** Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:36 pm

I think France will place. She's stunning!

**Canuck1986** Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:13 pm

Wojtek wrote:
bonner wrote:]size=18]
* The top 16 will comprise of 4 girls from North and South America, 4 from the Europe, 4 girls from Africa and Asia-Oceania with the last 4 wildcard girls coming from any of the continents.[/size]

Well, it's a bigger chance for us European. Last time just France made it and in 2015 just Belgium and France.

I agree with you on that but considering that there are some MUO picks, I wonder why they can't get a fair representation. They could have easily picked more Europeans last year and in 2015.

**ovidius** Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:58 pm

**Luiz Ricardo Cruz** Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:29 pm

I see France, Slovak Rep., Spain and Russia as the best europians...

**Wojtek** Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:13 am

Luiz Ricardo Cruz wrote:I see France, Slovak Rep., Spain and Russia as the best europians...

For me it should be France, Great Britain, Iceland and Russia Smile

**darkvindak** Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:55 am

Wojtek wrote:
Luiz Ricardo Cruz wrote:I see France, Slovak Rep., Spain and Russia as the best europians...

For me it should be France, Great Britain, Iceland and Russia

I dont like GB and Spain at all, I would put Russia, Iceland , Israel and Slovak R. ... alt. would be Poland, Germany and France

**bonner** Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:00 am

darkvindak wrote:
Wojtek wrote:
Luiz Ricardo Cruz wrote:I see France, Slovak Rep., Spain and Russia as the best europians...

For me it should be France, Great Britain, Iceland and Russia

I dont like GB and Spain at all, I would put Russia, Iceland , Israel and Slovak R. ... alt. would be Poland, Germany and France

I need to watch the preliminary first tomorrow. But my picks are France,Spain,
Iceland and Germany

If there will be a Wild card from Europe I want to see either Slovak Rep, Israel or maybe Finland?

**Wojtek** Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:32 pm

bonner wrote:
darkvindak wrote:
Wojtek wrote:
Luiz Ricardo Cruz wrote:I see France, Slovak Rep., Spain and Russia as the best europians...

For me it should be France, Great Britain, Iceland and Russia

I dont like GB and Spain at all, I would put Russia, Iceland , Israel and Slovak R. ... alt. would be Poland, Germany and France

I need to watch the preliminary first tomorrow. But my picks are France,Spain,
Iceland and Germany

If there will be a Wild card from Europe I want to see either Slovak Rep, Israel or maybe Finland?

I think that Israel is in Europe only in grandma Julia's map but we will see tomorrow

**Hepzzz** Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:00 pm

**Hepzzz** Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:00 pm

Germany I love you

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**Hepzzz** Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:01 pm

Some inside scoop/rumor/interesting T:

The other day was the meeting of the National Directors and some interesting information (allegedly) was revealed. Take this as you will. It's in Spanish, but I will translate:

Spanish:El dia de ayer se realizó la reunion anual de directores de franquicias con la Organizacion Miss Universe presidida por la Sr Shugart. Esta informacion me la compartieron dos fuentes que estan en Las Vegas, sin embargo, seria bueno corroborarla con alguien más para estar seguros que no sólo sea fake news. Hoy en dia ya no se sabe.

La Sra Shugart inició la reunion explicando las razones para el cambio en el formato de clasificacion para las seminifales. Segun se supo ella fue muy enfatica y directa en señalar que efectivamente la Organizacion esta buscando que paises diferentes a los habituales sean quienes clasifiquen y ojala ganen el concurso.

Argumenta que desean ampliar el espectro de influencia de la marca Miss Universo, en especial a aquellos paises que hace tiempo no clasifican y tambien a aquellos paises que nunca han ganado o que llevan muchos años esperando por ganar una segunda corona. De alguna manera esto ya se viene evidenciando con los triunfos recientes de Colomba, Filipinas y Francia.

De esta manera, analizamos el grupo actual de favoritas, no sería sorpresa si la ganadora de este año sea Peru, Brasil o Canada por parte de las Americas, de España por parte de Europa o Sud Africa o Indonesia por parte del grupo Asia/Africa.

Sucederá lo mismo con las semifinalistas: esperen la clasificacion de paises nuevos o paises que llevan mucho tiempo sin clasificar. Cambodia, Guyana, Sri Lanka suenan con insistencia.

Dicen que en la reunion muchos de los Directores Nacionales, en especial los Latinos, expresaron su inconformidad de manera oficial ante la Organizacion.

La otra noticia que se supo fue que para el 2018 el concurso se va a celebrar entre Septiembre y Noviembre. Hay dos propuestas sobre la mesa, una es Lima y la otra es Bogota.

English:Yesterday was meeting of the national directors with Miss Universe Organization President, Paula Shugart. The following information was revealed to me by two people who are in Las Vegas, but would still be good to corroborate with others to make sure it is not fake news. We don't know what to believe in this day and age.

Miss Shugart started the meeting explaining the reasons why they (MUO) changed the format of picking the finalists. Allegedly, she was very emphatic and direct in signaling that the Organization is looking for different/new countries (than those that are usually called) to be semifinalists and to hopefully win.

She argued that IMG wants to amplify their influence and the Miss Universe brand, especially to those countries that have clapped for a long time, and for those who may have been called as semi-finalist but have never won, or have been waiting many years for their second crown. This has become very evident with the latest triumph of Colombia, Philippines, and France.

With this information, if we look at the current favorites for the crown, it won't be surprising if the winners of the crown will be Peru, Brazil, or Canada from the Americas, Spain from Europe, or South Africa or Indonesia from the Africa/Asia region.

The same will be expected when they call the semifinalists: expect to see new countries being called or countries that have not been called in a long time. Cambodia, Guyana, Sri Lanka are said to be strong considerations.

They say in the meeting that many National Directors, particularly the Latino ND's, formally expressed their disagreement with the new format to the Organization.

The other news that came out was that for 2018, Miss Universe will be held sometime between September and November. There are two locations currently on the table: Lima (Peru) and Bogota (Colombia).

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Of all the rumors about this year's edition, I think this is the most credible rumor.

If we look how IMG has operated since they've taken over, iIt would make sense that IMG wants other countries to win, whether its countries that have never won, or countries that have not won in years. They want to expand their brand as far and wide as possible. They want to justify the reason why ND's pay an exorbitant amount of fees to join Miss Universe, because they will actually have a chance to finally make it.

Also, once IMG took over, look at their winners: Philippines who haven't won since the 1970s and France, who haven't won since the 1950s (even though BOTH countries did exceptionally well their respective years).

This is why I do think this year its going to be Thailand, South Africa, or maybe even a new country that has never won before (Iceland?).

What do you guys think?

**Farah Vavaihan** Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:08 pm

**Wojtek** Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:55 pm

**Wojtek** Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:18 pm

Australia's thighs are huge!
Germany has a very beautiful face, but her body is not in a best form.
Finland is so stiff on stage!
Puerto Rico got a great walk!
I really don't get what you can see in Slovak Rep, very average

**eja** Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:54 pm

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My favourite for the Crown, but Europé will probably not win twice in a row. eja

**Farah Vavaihan** Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:10 pm

Wojtek wrote:Australia's thighs are huge!
Germany has a very beautiful face, but her body is not in a best form.
Finland is so stiff on stage!
Puerto Rico got a great walk!
I really don't get what you can see in Slovak Rep, very average

Bodies is not a problem anymore Laughing

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**darkvindak** Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:24 pm

South Africa has really bad body. Angola is best African or maybe Nigeria, but I vote for Angola, she has better body.

Russia is the best European girl. But Slovak is also gorgeous. Albania has very good body. Germany is beautiful face with few kg over. France is cute face nothing more. Poland is solid conteneder, she has pretty face and great body. Iceland body is bad in my opinion, her face is gorgeous.
I like Israel and Lebanon but their stage prsentation is not memorable.

Canada and Australia are big disappointments, Canada with her ..well I didn't like anything , and Australia has big legs, and in general not worth of top 16.

Peru is gorgeous, I would love if she win. Mexico is amazing body and plain face. Nicaragua and Paragay also have good bodies. Colombia is overrall great, nothing extraordinary, but since year is weak she did stand out. Brazil is okish. Hoduras is good. Jamaica is beautiful.

Thailand is looking great. Vietnam and Korea are good, no WOW but they are good. Philippines is good body and plain face. Indonesia has great body as well but her face is just ok, better than Philippines but still not my cup of tea. Laos may surprise as well as Myanmar, both look good. Sri Lanka and India are beautiful girls with no so good bodies. Cambodia looks gorgeous in SS, but in EG she has funny hairstyle, it doesn't suits her at all.
USA is solid girl, but I don't like her.

If I was judge I would choose:
Europe: Russia, Slovak R., Iceland and Poland...
Africa-Asia: Angola, Thailand, Laos, Nigeria
America: Peru, Mexico, Jamaica and Colombia.
4+ : Sri Lanka, Germany, India and Israel (or Lebanon)...

**bonner** Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:53 am

I will watch the preliminary today. I think the performance is not also a guarantee for a placement in the Top 16. Remember Miriam Habach she's the best performer in MU 2016.

**bonner** Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:45 am

I am watching the preliminary. Angola, Ireland, Honduras is now in my list. For sure there will be a surprise countries in the Top 16.

I am afraid South Africa will not make it into the Top 16. In Africa Group I prefer Angola, Tanzania, and Nigeria and even Namibia before South Africa.

**bonner** Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:02 am

Croatia and Bulgaria might pull a surprise. I love Croatia's gown and she has a story to tell as well. Bulgaria is so sweet

**ovidius** Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:59 pm

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