Stéfania is not the real winner ????

it"s true ????

we've already established this. imo no one in the top 5 deserves to win. dr, pr, and venezuela were there because there latinas. kososvo was there to put a least one european through. when it came down to it she needed more training her answer sucked. many lovely ladies were duped that night. especially france and netherland swho had the full package

well, it is really really interesting

we cant do anything about it!

What is interesting? What is true?

I don't get you people. This whole.... the results were read wrong aren't nothing but some made up accusations from angry latins who think that
their own (puerto rico or dominican rep.) should've won. Stefania won because THAT IS what the judges wanted!!!

Milka wrote:What is interesting? What is true?

I don't get you people. This whole.... the results were read wrong aren't nothing but some made up accusations from angry latins who think that
their own (puerto rico or dominican rep.) should've won. Stefania won because THAT IS what the judges wanted!!!

oh please milka be serious. those judges are probable next seasons apprentice contestants. what do they know about judging? and stefania was not the best that night. miss france was scored low for no reason at all that night. go rewatch the show. stefania is not the real winner. more like who trump told the judges to choose beforehand. watch the prelims while ur at it cayman islands and netherlands performed better than venezuela and so did other girls who weent considered.

The only one thing what we can do here is to express our opinions. Non-objective opinions. For example I don´t see nothing special on Miss Cayman Islands and also Stefania is not my favourite Miss Universe, so what...? This year MU is over and I really hope my favourite France and South Africa will place high on Miss World 2009

triniusacutie wrote:oh please milka be serious. those judges are probable next seasons apprentice contestants. what do they know about judging?

I am serious. I can totally get how Venezuela won from those semifinalists.... Kosovo was the best but I understand that se might have not been the best CHOICE for Miss Universe. And definetly Dominican rep. was not! Venezuela was!

And what do those judges know about judging? Well, just about the same as every other panel in any other year!!

WHY would the organisation want Venezuela to win again? Why do you people think that THIS year the results were fixed and not last year when Dayna won even though she WAS NOT the best that night. And SHE ALSO didn't answer to the final question! Yet she won.

LET IT GO!!!! Stefania is the winner now and I love it!!!

miss france was scored low for no reason at all that night. go rewatch the show.

I have watched to show THREE times now,and agree with the judges on France. I would have not put her to top5 either.
And there's nothing you can do about it! I just didn't like her that much. It's about different opinions.

Miss Netherlands, Avalon-Chanel should have made the top 15. She was my favourite of the pageant! Why she didn't make it? God only knows,
but you don't see me shouting and crying over it all the time and blame judges and be angry at the organisation. There's nothing we can do about it anymore.... So we just have to get on with our lives

watch the prelims while ur at it

I watched it live, thank you very much and immediatly I wrote to this board that Stefania was the bomb in EG!!!!!!

STEFANIA!!!! YOU GO GIRL and you show every one what you are made of!!

milka no one in the top 5 could have been the winner. none had the full package. ksosovo was not the best her answer was horrible she had no clue what she was talking about. ada got hers fixed by her translator, venzuela needs to study up because her answer wasnt good either. austraialia was just boring. puerto rico was pretty good but kinda lifeless as well. and yes what we can do is sign the petition, boycott and voice our opinions about mu. which is what everone on here is doing voicng there opinon. u cant get mad when we say she wasnt the real winner. if u pay attentino to detail. trump has property in puerto rico, dominican republic, has close releations with venezuela, fadil worked the most with albania and kosovo. is intered in crotia for mu in the future. it was all about business from the time the women were elected. veenzuela could have showed up looknig any how and won

triniusacutie wrote:milka no one in the top 5 could have been the winner. none had the full package. ksosovo was not the best her answer was horrible she had no clue what she was talking about. ada got hers fixed by her translator, venzuela needs to study up because her answer wasnt good either. austraialia was just boring. puerto rico was pretty good but kinda lifeless as well. and yes what we can do is sign the petition, boycott and voice our opinions about mu. which is what everone on here is doing voicng there opinon. u cant get mad when we say she wasnt the real winner. if u pay attentino to detail. trump has property in puerto rico, dominican republic, has close releations with venezuela, fadil worked the most with albania and kosovo. is intered in crotia for mu in the future. it was all about business from the time the women were elected. veenzuela could have showed up looknig any how and won

TOTALY AGREE

triniusacutie wrote:and yes what we can do is sign the petition, boycott and voice our opinions about mu.

I don't want to
There's nothing to boycott in my opinion... I love Stefania as the winner

u cant get mad when we say she wasnt the real winner.

And you can't get mad if someone likes Stefania

if u pay attentino to detail. trump has property in puerto rico, dominican republic, has close releations with venezuela,

And I guess that is why Puerto Rico made the semis in 2007 and 2008
And I guess that is why Venezuela made the semis in 2004 and 2006

fadil worked the most with albania and kosovo.

And that is why Albania has made the semis in 2003-2008

veenzuela could have showed up looknig any how and won

And that is why Venezuela wins every single year

This starst every year when someone who wasn't tipped of as the winner, wins. No one said anything last year, because everyone thought that Dayana deserved it. SHE TOO GAVE A POOR ANSWER BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION!!! Yet, nobody says anything because everybody love's Daynan....

You shine Stefania, and don't mind people who are trying to put you down!!!!

milka for the record i cant stand dayana and never could. and she didnt deserve the crown either. glad u like stefania but the majority of us dont and you should at least be able to admit there were girls better than her that were overlooked.

triniusacutie wrote:glad u like stefania but the majority of us dont and you should at least be able to admit there were girls better than her that were overlooked.

The only contestant who was overlooked was Netherlands. She was my number one before final night
Kosovo was my number two before final night and Venezuela was my number third before final night. And that's it!

So in my opinion, and I have the right to my opinion, only Kosovo was better than Venezuela from the semifinalists and that's my god honest truth. If that's tough to accept then well, it's your problem, not mine. I have the right to my own opionion and I dont' have to agree with anyone else's opinions. Just because you and the majority don't like Stefania doesn't mean everyone has to agree. I don't. I don't think France was overlooked. I don't think South Africa or the others was overlooked....

SEMIFINALISTS:
1. Kosovo
2. Venezuela

And that is how it is in my opinion. Those two were SO MUCH BETTER than the rest. And I'm happy both of them did so well!

I like to read your opinions... I have to disagree... well, I really dont agree with Milka's opinion that Venezuela and Kosovo was the best... I had different favs- but that is normal, each person is unique and it is not fair to talk about it and argue with other people because of that...
well, it can be not deserving for Stefania and maybe another girl should have won... But that is reality and that is why we love beauty pageants- we never know who will win- and that is beautiful. We dont see real behaviour of contestants. So that is why we cant say that Stefania doesnt deserve to win...at least we cant do anything with it and she will be winner fot the next few months... so I think it is better not to solve it, it is not worthy... It is just oficial Miss Universe 2009- in each mind we can have different winner...
that's my opinion...

perlas wrote:It is just oficial Miss Universe 2009- in each mind we can have different winner...

Oh, and in this decade I have agreed with the judges ONLY ONCE. In 2007
Every other year I have had different opinions. That's life....

What I don't like is that if I voice my opinions, somebody comes over and says "Milka, admit that this and that was overlooked and underscored...." Like trying to force me to admit something I don't agree on.
Nobody else but me can tell me who to like and who not to like. In my mind France was actually overscored, since she made the semis.
And you know, you don't have to agree. You may even wonder why? But nobody can tell me how to rank this girls. I'll rank them as I see them.
And to me, I am right.

I have my opinion, You have your opinion, She has her opinion and He has his opinion. And we are all right in our minds.

So, I would appreciate if this forcing thing would stop. You can't force me or anybody else to agree. We are individuals with our own minds.