Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2015 - SWEDEN WINS !!!

**Wojtek** Sun May 24, 2015 12:42 am

What a shame to polish judge, Natalia Szroeder. In her ranking Italy was.... 26th Laughing

C'mon! Who chose her to be one of the judges? She's a young singer who doesn't have a clue about ESC Razz

Italy was 1st in polish televoting but mainly because of her they received only 7 points Razz

the same with Estonia, in televoting 2nd but in her ranking... 19th Rolling Eyes

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**Del** Sun May 24, 2015 2:42 am

I love those self - named experts!

**kleftokotou** Sun May 24, 2015 7:34 am

http://www.eurovision.tv/page/results

Υou can see the full results there....so the top 3 in only televoting with out the juries are........

Italy 356
Russia 286
Sweden 272

Just like in 2011 juries took the victory from Sweden and gave it to Az this year the victory was deprived from Italy and given to Sweden! Karma I guess!!
Oh let's not forget 2013 when the full scoreboards were never published! Wink

And to think that Jan Ola Sand insistis that Juries ensure that quality songs win! Laughing

**kleftokotou** Sun May 24, 2015 7:52 am

Wojtek wrote:What a shame to polish judge, Natalia Szroeder. In her ranking Italy was.... 26th C'mon! Who chose her to be one of the judges? She's a young singer who doesn't have a clue about ESC Italy was 1st in polish televoting but mainly because of her they received only 7 points the same with Estonia, in televoting 2nd but in her ranking... 19th

Propably that was not her personal choices it was what she had to do! I am sure that all the countries that were brave enough to support Italy Laughing

will pay for it the coming years with bad results!

**kleftokotou** Sun May 24, 2015 8:34 am

TELEVOTING
01. Italy – 366
02. Russia – 286
03. Sweden – 279
04. Belgium – 195
05. Estonia – 144
06. Australia – 132
07. Israel -104
08. Latvia – 100
09. Albania – 93
10. Serbia – 86
11. Armenia – 77
12. Romania – 69
13. Georgia – 51
14. Azerbaijan – 48
15. Poland – 47
16. Lithuania – 44
17. Norway – 43
18. Montenegro – 34
19. Slovenia – 27
20. Spain – 26
21. Greece – 24
22. Hungary – 21
23. Cyprus – 8
24. United Kingdom – 7
25. Germany – 5
26. France – 4
27. Austria – 0

ΕΧPERT JURIES
01. Sweden – 353
02. Latvia – 249
03. Russia – 234
04. Australia – 224
05. Belgium – 186
06. Italy – 171
07. Norway – 163
08. Israel – 77
09. Cyprus – 63
10. Georgia – 62
11. Estonia – 53
12. Montenegro – 44
13. Austria – 40
14. Azerbaijan -40
15. Slovenia – 36
16. Lithuania – 31
17. Hungary – 29
18. Greece – 29
19. France – 24
20. Germany – 24
21. Romania – 21
22. Armenia – 15
23. United Kingdom – 12
24. Serbia – 12
25. Spain – 6
26. Albania – 4
27. Poland – 2

**kleftokotou** Sun May 24, 2015 8:37 am

Ι just realized what happened to Albania!!! Shocked

From 9th to 26th!!

**kleftokotou** Sun May 24, 2015 8:42 am

In televoting of the second semi Czech Republic was 10th!! Sad

The juries made sure that Azerbaijan was in the final insteand of them!
Same was with Finland and Hungary at the first semi!

**kleftokotou** Sun May 24, 2015 8:44 am

Jan Ola Sand should change his name to Machiavelli!! Laughing

**bestman** Sun May 24, 2015 9:19 am

I can live with this result. And it was predicted in all polls and in the prefinal odds.

I just wanted Spain higher and I don't think Germany deserved 0 points. I liked her stage perfomance in the final even if the song was not great.

**NiKa** Sun May 24, 2015 9:27 am

Italy was my winner! I love you

Such a powerful performance -yhu-

I'm not a big fan of the Sweden's song, because for me it's a clear plagiarism - 'Lovers of the sun' with different lyrics Rolling Eyes

If this song wouldn't represent Sweden I'm sure Jan Ola and the rest of his crew would see this, but oh well Razz

And once again juries made Poland ranked lower... I got used to it Laughing

**kleftokotou** Sun May 24, 2015 10:41 am

Semifinals - Televoting result!
SEMI-FINAL 1
1 : 144 : Russia
2 : 133 : Estonia
3 : 119 : Belgium
4 : 97 : Georgia
5 : 95 : Romania
6 : 86 : Serbia
7 : 82 : Armenia
8 : 63 : Albania
9 : 57 : Greece
10 : 55 : Finland
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11 : 50 : Hungary
12 : 38 : Moldova
13 : 23 : Denmark
14 : 22 : Macedonia
15 : 21 : The Netherlands
16 : 20 : Belarus

SEMI-FINAL 2
1 : 171 : Sweden
2 : 140 : Israel
3 : 114 : Poland
4 : 100 : Latvia
5 : 90 : Norway
6 : 88 : Lithuania
7 : 78 : Cyprus
8 : 70 : Slovenia
9 : 48 : Montenegro
10 : 46 : Czech Republic
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11 : 30 : Azerbaijan
12 : 17 : Portugal
13 : 16 : Iceland
14 : 15 : Malta
15 : 11 : San Marino
16 : 5 : Ireland
17 : 5 : Switzerland

**kleftokotou** Sun May 24, 2015 10:57 am

NiKa wrote:..... If this song wouldn't represent Sweden I'm sure Jan Ola and the rest of his crew would see this, but oh well And once again juries made Poland ranked lower... I got used to it

ESC is slowly turning to MU! Jan Ola is our European Donald crowning whoever he wants!! Laughing

I voted 2 times last night.... that was 1.20 euros and I feel that I shouldn't have cause my vote just did not matter!!

**JEANP** Sun May 24, 2015 11:00 am

I watched a bit the constest and I was very disapointed. Germany did not deservered 0 points it was for me one of the best song.
Too much political vote (maybe France will withdrew of Eurovision because of that)
And in my opinion the countries should sing in their own language . Congrats to the winners.
Positive points : at least we did not finish at the last place and my country give points to Poland Smile

(and Spain Smile

)

**kleftokotou** Sun May 24, 2015 11:17 am

JEANP wrote:.......
And in my opinion the countries should sing in their own language.......

Couldn't agree more!
We miss you! -rhrhd-

**bestman** Sun May 24, 2015 11:39 am

kleftokotou wrote:
NiKa wrote:..... If this song wouldn't represent Sweden I'm sure Jan Ola and the rest of his crew would see this, but oh well And once again juries made Poland ranked lower... I got used to it
ESC is slowly turning to MU! Jan Ola is our European Donald crowning whoever he wants!!
I voted 2 times last night.... that was 1.20 euros and I feel that I shouldn't have cause my vote just did not matter!!

What do you mean? Mr Sand has of course no impact on how the natinal juries vote or the public votes!

Poland on the other hand should be happy that so many Polish people live and work in other countries around Europe, making Poland reach the final by their televoting.
Look at the British televoting: Lithuania and Poland number 1 and 2. Maybe the two most boring songs of the final.

**Wojtek** Sun May 24, 2015 12:22 pm

NiKa wrote:.....
As for Poland it's obvious for me that we have 15th place in televoting because of our diaspora's voting. I found it very fair that Poland was last in the experts voting. A very weak song and unfortunately also Monika's voice The same with Albania - very bad live, so 26th place is very fair. [/size][/font]

[quote="kleftokotou"]I don't buy the story of the diaspora votes, not anymore, I think it's a joke really. If that was the case then Armenia and Israel would have been in the top 3 every single year!
The Polish entry I think that people were touched my her personal story! It had strong emotions (isn't that what music is for?) so don't say that she only got diaspora votes! Poor Albania was between 2 amazing acts, whoever got that spot was doomed!
As for the expert's juries, they should not be using the term expert anymore after putting Italy 26th!!!!

Do people react in Poland for the jury's votes! What will happen next year??

Here the member's of the jury are praised for giving Italy 12 points (just like the televoting where Italy won with huuuuuuuge difference)!
And there is a strong demand from Greek fans not to participate at least next year as a way to express our disagreement to the way the ESC is evolving!
As for Maria_Helena we are pleased with her performances and overall attitude! We expected that our placement would be in the same levels as last year...we even get one spot higher! ]

**Wojtek** Sun May 24, 2015 12:23 pm

bestman wrote:
kleftokotou wrote:
NiKa wrote:..... If this song wouldn't represent Sweden I'm sure Jan Ola and the rest of his crew would see this, but oh well And once again juries made Poland ranked lower... I got used to it
ESC is slowly turning to MU! Jan Ola is our European Donald crowning whoever he wants!!
I voted 2 times last night.... that was 1.20 euros and I feel that I shouldn't have cause my vote just did not matter!!

What do you mean? Mr Sand has of course no impact on how the natinal juries vote or the public votes!

Poland on the other hand should be happy that so many Polish people live and work in other countries around Europe, making Poland reach the final by their televoting.
Look at the British televoting: Lithuania and Poland number 1 and 2. Maybe the two most boring songs of the final.

Exactly! That's why juries is very needed. That's what is about to block diasporas and neighbours voting Smile

**Wojtek** Sun May 24, 2015 12:24 pm

kleftokotou wrote:
JEANP wrote:.......
And in my opinion the countries should sing in their own language.......
Couldn't agree more!
We miss you!

Then Ireland or UK would be the winner all over again like in 90s. No, thank you Razz

**Wojtek** Sun May 24, 2015 12:28 pm

kleftokotou wrote:In televoting of the second semi Czech Republic was 10th!! The juries made sure that Azerbaijan was in the final insteand of them!
Same was with Finland and Hungary at the first semi!

Finland in the final? Shocked

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**Wojtek** Sun May 24, 2015 12:36 pm

**kleftokotou** Sun May 24, 2015 1:14 pm

Wojtek wrote:........
Exactly! That's why juries is very needed. That's what is about to block diasporas and neighbours voting

Did that happened last night???? Rolling Eyes

Where was I?????? Scandinavia and Ex-Russian republics did what they do every year! I don't see how that helped! Evil or Very Mad

Let's see the facts...
The juries were introduced in 2009, right?
2009 Norway
2010 Germany
2011 Sweden
2012 Azerbaijan
2013 Denmark
2014 Austria
2015 Sweden

I see the 2 blocks prevale ...nothing else! The South does not excist..............
Before the juries, we had more diverse winners Turkey, Ukraine, Greece, Finland , Serbia!
The only thing juries brought was control over the result, this year was way to obvious and I pray this will bring some change!

**kleftokotou** Sun May 24, 2015 1:15 pm

Wojtek wrote:
NiKa wrote:.....
As for Poland it's obvious for me that we have 15th place in televoting because of our diaspora's voting. I found it very fair that Poland was last in the experts voting. A very weak song and unfortunately also Monika's voice The same with Albania - very bad live, so 26th place is very fair. [/size][/font]
I don't buy the story of the diaspora votes, not anymore, I think it's a joke really. If that was the case then Armenia and Israel would have been in the top 3 every single year!
The Polish entry I think that people were touched my her personal story! It had strong emotions (isn't that what music is for?) so don't say that she only got diaspora votes! Poor Albania was between 2 amazing acts, whoever got that spot was doomed!
As for the expert's juries, they should not be using the term expert anymore after putting Italy 26th!!!!
Do people react in Poland for the jury's votes! What will happen next year??

Here the member's of the jury are praised for giving Italy 12 points (just like the televoting where Italy won with huuuuuuuge difference)!
And there is a strong demand from Greek fans not to participate at least next year as a way to express our disagreement to the way the ESC is evolving!
As for Maria_Helena we are pleased with her performances and overall attitude! We expected that our placement would be in the same levels as last year...we even get one spot higher!

Oh my I messed your post sorry guys!!!!! Embarassed

I pressed edit instead of quote!!!!!! Embarassed

**Del** Sun May 24, 2015 1:43 pm

Wojtek wrote:
kleftokotou wrote:In televoting of the second semi Czech Republic was 10th!! The juries made sure that Azerbaijan was in the final insteand of them!
Same was with Finland and Hungary at the first semi!

Finland in the final?

I'm glad there's jury vote! Very Happy

Even though this means that experts favored Sweden over Italy Shocked

The only thing I'm really concerned about is that Italy might withdraw next year due to lack of interest. That could explain why they didn't want to win...

**kleftokotou** Sun May 24, 2015 1:44 pm

bestman wrote:I can live with this result. And it was predicted in all polls and in the prefinal odds.

....

Italy has won most of the polls including the OGAE one!

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