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Post  Cammie Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:28 pm

I am very surprised about what I am reading here. I have not watched the pageant yet, but of course I know what happened. I understand that you are all upset abou what happened and feel sorry for buth ladies, but suing Steve, firing whole MU team??? It is a live telecast that milions of people are watching. What he did was (I hope, maybe I´m just naive) just human mistake, but he was man enoug to say thah he made that mistake in front of whole crowd and camersa knowing the consequences. It is not the first time such tihing happened, but it was never pageant this big andcorrection was never made in such a short period of time afterwards (Miss California USA 2008, Miss Florida 2014 and maybe few more that we even don´t know about...).

And even if it was staged. It´s publicity...
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Post  Wojtek Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:56 pm

I wonder what is so great about INDONESIA lately? I really don't get it. Before 2013 this country got really weak sash and now? Third time in a row in the top 15. In 2013 Whulandary wasn't bad and pretty deserving but another 2 girls? Veeeery plain and average.

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Post  marievause Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:58 pm

scotty2hotty wrote:Only things I enjoyed:

Seal's performance
the top 5 was diverse with girls from all over the globe

Didn't care for the production, the three hour running time, the same old same old in the top 15

I think it's time MUO reorganizes and gets rid of Paula Shugart.

Also, select presenters more suited to such a global event. Mario Lopez, Daisey Fuentes, Billy Bush, and Nancy O'Dell were more professional and more suited to presenting Miss Universe.

I noticed they kept mentioning Miss Universe should be an "it" girl, but several in the top 15 didn't strike me as "it" girls. I think there were more it girls who did not place.

Roselyn Sanchez was very good. it was her first time and she did quite well.

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Post  Wojtek Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:33 pm

The best top 5 in yeeeers Smile

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Post  kleftokotou Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:17 am

Wojtek wrote:
The best top 5 in yeeeers Smile

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The top 3 could be better!!
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Post  darkvindak Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:33 am

Wojtek wrote:I wonder what is so great about INDONESIA lately? I really don't get it. Before 2013 this country got really weak sash and now? Third time in a row in the top 15. In 2013 Whulandary wasn't bad and pretty deserving but another 2 girls? Veeeery plain and average.

I wonder the same, it must be that there have a lot of crazy MU fans
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Post  kleftokotou Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:36 am

darkvindak wrote:
Wojtek wrote:I wonder what is so great about INDONESIA lately? I really don't get it. Before 2013 this country got really weak sash and now? Third time in a row in the top 15. In 2013 Whulandary wasn't bad and pretty deserving but another 2 girls? Veeeery plain and average.

I wonder the same, it must be that there have a lot of crazy MU fans
Just like Philippines just a few years ago they started entering top 5 every single year!
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Post  jimrey1989 Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:01 am

marievause wrote:
Wojtek wrote:
Milka wrote:
kleftokotou wrote:I prefere Pia over Andriana no doubt! Watching the crownings and her reaction made me apreciate her more! I hope she will have a great year as MU!!

I actually was dissapointed how Pia handled it.
She didn't even comfort Ariadna or anything.

I get that she was probably just like WTF just happned and felt akward. But in my opinion Pia should have somehow aknowledged Ariandra. Now she just stood there smiling and waiting for the crown to be handed to her. While poor Ariandna is crying.


Yeah, I have a hard time accepting this win. Pia was not among my favourites. And after Paulina she is a huge step down.
I'm sorry it I'm offending someone here. Congrats Phillippines and bonner here, but I'm sorry. Pia just doesn't say Miss Universe to me. Neutral

Couldn't agree more!

i also agree with you on that one! Pia didnt even give Andriana a tap on her back, just stood there. I also agree that she doesnt scream MU. Miss Australia and Miss France were so fresh and more appropriate for the title.  Pia  looks old to me and although she is beautiful, i dont know why, but she looks like she's got a mean face and she also looks plastic to me. For another year running ,its very clear,  who gets to the top 15 no matter if they deserve it or not! And i want that "fan vote" to go away and never come back. The reasons were explained before...

pia attempted to approach her, but adriana was sorrounded by the ladies...know the other part of the story. and later on in the press conference expressed her sadness for adriana

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Post  NiKa Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:09 am

jimrey1989 wrote:
marievause wrote:
Wojtek wrote:
Milka wrote:
kleftokotou wrote:I prefere Pia over Andriana no doubt! Watching the crownings and her reaction made me apreciate her more! I hope she will have a great year as MU!!

I actually was dissapointed how Pia handled it.
She didn't even comfort Ariadna or anything.

I get that she was probably just like WTF just happned and felt akward. But in my opinion Pia should have somehow aknowledged Ariandra. Now she just stood there smiling and waiting for the crown to be handed to her. While poor Ariandna is crying.


Yeah, I have a hard time accepting this win. Pia was not among my favourites. And after Paulina she is a huge step down.
I'm sorry it I'm offending someone here. Congrats Phillippines and bonner here, but I'm sorry. Pia just doesn't say Miss Universe to me. Neutral

Couldn't agree more!

i also agree with you on that one! Pia didnt even give Andriana a tap on her back, just stood there. I also agree that she doesnt scream MU. Miss Australia and Miss France were so fresh and more appropriate for the title.  Pia  looks old to me and although she is beautiful, i dont know why, but she looks like she's got a mean face and she also looks plastic to me. For another year running ,its very clear,  who gets to the top 15 no matter if they deserve it or not! And i want that "fan vote" to go away and never come back. The reasons were explained before...

pia attempted to approach her, but adriana was sorrounded by the ladies...know the other part of the story. and later on in the press conference expressed her sadness for adriana

I don't like the fact that you're trying to make Pia a bad one here, guys.... She is as same victim of human's mistake as Ariadna is in this story. She also had to face with the shock and mixed feelings and keep the game going on while everything was live  show.... She didn't play Mother Threresa in front of the cameras, but the fact that she wanted to gave back the crown shows that she had a lot of doubts and really feels bad for Ariadna. I think she behaved much better than Ariadna is now who can't accept the fact that she's not the winner here and trying to be in the spot light... It shows which one has more humility
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Post  jimrey1989 Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:25 am

NiKa wrote:
jimrey1989 wrote:
marievause wrote:
Wojtek wrote:
Milka wrote:
kleftokotou wrote:I prefere Pia over Andriana no doubt! Watching the crownings and her reaction made me apreciate her more! I hope she will have a great year as MU!!

I actually was dissapointed how Pia handled it.
She didn't even comfort Ariadna or anything.

I get that she was probably just like WTF just happned and felt akward. But in my opinion Pia should have somehow aknowledged Ariandra. Now she just stood there smiling and waiting for the crown to be handed to her. While poor Ariandna is crying.


Yeah, I have a hard time accepting this win. Pia was not among my favourites. And after Paulina she is a huge step down.
I'm sorry it I'm offending someone here. Congrats Phillippines and bonner here, but I'm sorry. Pia just doesn't say Miss Universe to me. Neutral

Couldn't agree more!

i also agree with you on that one! Pia didnt even give Andriana a tap on her back, just stood there. I also agree that she doesnt scream MU. Miss Australia and Miss France were so fresh and more appropriate for the title.  Pia  looks old to me and although she is beautiful, i dont know why, but she looks like she's got a mean face and she also looks plastic to me. For another year running ,its very clear,  who gets to the top 15 no matter if they deserve it or not! And i want that "fan vote" to go away and never come back. The reasons were explained before...

pia attempted to approach her, but adriana was sorrounded by the ladies...know the other part of the story. and later on in the press conference expressed her sadness for adriana

I don't like the fact that you're trying to make Pia a bad one here, guys.... She is as same victim of human's mistake as Ariadna is in this story. She also had to face with the shock and mixed feelings and keep the game going on while everything was live  show.... She didn't play Mother Threresa in front of the cameras, but the fact that she wanted to gave back the crown shows that she had a lot of doubts and really feels bad for Ariadna. I think she behaved much better than Ariadna is now who can't accept the fact that she's not the winner here and trying to be in the spot light... It shows which one has more humility

i am able to watch the video of pia approaching adrian but the girls ignore her.i pity pia for that, then a MUO staff drag her to have her walk.....i am disgusted on their behavior. If you are there in her place...i doubt if u will do the same thing, ull always follow instincts....

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Post  jimrey1989 Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:29 am

darkvindak wrote:
Wojtek wrote:I wonder what is so great about INDONESIA lately? I really don't get it. Before 2013 this country got really weak sash and now? Third time in a row in the top 15. In 2013 Whulandary wasn't bad and pretty deserving but another 2 girls? Veeeery plain and average.

I wonder the same, it must be that there have a lot of crazy MU fans

well in southeast asia and asia as a whole, beauty pageant is becoming a big thing  and generates a lot of enthusiasm and interests from its people..thats why asians are doing things to satisfy and achieve those interests, look vietnam...myanmar,,,

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Post  Milka Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:22 pm

jimrey1989 wrote:
marievause wrote:
Wojtek wrote:
Milka wrote:
kleftokotou wrote:I prefere Pia over Andriana no doubt! Watching the crownings and her reaction made me apreciate her more! I hope she will have a great year as MU!!

I actually was dissapointed how Pia handled it.
She didn't even comfort Ariadna or anything.

I get that she was probably just like WTF just happned and felt akward. But in my opinion Pia should have somehow aknowledged Ariandra. Now she just stood there smiling and waiting for the crown to be handed to her. While poor Ariandna is crying.


Yeah, I have a hard time accepting this win. Pia was not among my favourites. And after Paulina she is a huge step down.
I'm sorry it I'm offending someone here. Congrats Phillippines and bonner here, but I'm sorry. Pia just doesn't say Miss Universe to me. Neutral

Couldn't agree more!

i also agree with you on that one! Pia didnt even give Andriana a tap on her back, just stood there. I also agree that she doesnt scream MU. Miss Australia and Miss France were so fresh and more appropriate for the title.  Pia  looks old to me and although she is beautiful, i dont know why, but she looks like she's got a mean face and she also looks plastic to me. For another year running ,its very clear,  who gets to the top 15 no matter if they deserve it or not! And i want that "fan vote" to go away and never come back. The reasons were explained before...

pia attempted to approach her, but adriana was sorrounded by the ladies...know the other part of the story. and later on in the press conference expressed her sadness for adriana

Yeah, AFTER she got the crown. I'm talking about when Ariandna still had the crown and sash on and Pia walked beside her. She said and did NOTHING!!! Absolutely nothing. She just stood there a long time smiling and waiting. PAULINA was the one who then camed and acted very respectfly trying to calm down the audience and tapped both of their backs.

Look it again, Pia did absolutely nothing. She just looked confused and then started smiling. Nothing on her facial expressiond or body language at THAT moment said that she felt bad for Colombia. It was only after she saw that Ariandna started crying that she tried to approach her.

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Post  darkvindak Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:39 pm

lol people stop blaming Pia, she was shocked, for God Sake
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Post  darkvindak Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:46 pm

*On the video, Pia with the crown tried to reach out and showed concern for Ariadna but she couldn’t get past the other candidates who blocked her way. Pia was later led away from the stage.*
I feel sorry for Pia since she couldn't enjoy in her crowning moment
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Post  Wojtek Tue Dec 22, 2015 7:10 pm

Milka wrote:
jimrey1989 wrote:
marievause wrote:
Wojtek wrote:
Milka wrote:
kleftokotou wrote:I prefere Pia over Andriana no doubt! Watching the crownings and her reaction made me apreciate her more! I hope she will have a great year as MU!!

I actually was dissapointed how Pia handled it.
She didn't even comfort Ariadna or anything.

I get that she was probably just like WTF just happned and felt akward. But in my opinion Pia should have somehow aknowledged Ariandra. Now she just stood there smiling and waiting for the crown to be handed to her. While poor Ariandna is crying.


Yeah, I have a hard time accepting this win. Pia was not among my favourites. And after Paulina she is a huge step down.
I'm sorry it I'm offending someone here. Congrats Phillippines and bonner here, but I'm sorry. Pia just doesn't say Miss Universe to me. Neutral

Couldn't agree more!

i also agree with you on that one! Pia didnt even give Andriana a tap on her back, just stood there. I also agree that she doesnt scream MU. Miss Australia and Miss France were so fresh and more appropriate for the title.  Pia  looks old to me and although she is beautiful, i dont know why, but she looks like she's got a mean face and she also looks plastic to me. For another year running ,its very clear,  who gets to the top 15 no matter if they deserve it or not! And i want that "fan vote" to go away and never come back. The reasons were explained before...

pia attempted to approach her, but adriana was sorrounded by the ladies...know the other part of the story. and later on in the press conference expressed her sadness for adriana

Yeah, AFTER she got the crown. I'm talking about when Ariandna still had the crown and sash on and Pia walked beside her. She said and did NOTHING!!! Absolutely nothing. She just stood there a long time smiling and waiting. PAULINA was the one who then camed and acted very respectfly trying to calm down the audience and tapped both of their backs.

Look it again, Pia did absolutely nothing. She just looked confused and then started smiling. Nothing on her facial expressiond or body language at THAT moment said that she felt bad for Colombia. It was only after she saw that Ariandna started crying that she tried to approach her.

Well, she wasn't prepared for such a situation by her trainers -hbbv-

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Post  NiKa Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:13 pm

darkvindak wrote:lol people stop blaming Pia, she was shocked, for God Sake

Exactly! -za32- Her only 'fault' here was that she was a rightful winner... Rolling Eyes Hello?! She wanted to gave back the crown even if being MU was her biggest dream! It's unfair to blame the girl for accepting a gift from faith which she rightfully deserved! Evil or Very Mad  

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Post  NiKa Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:31 pm

darkvindak wrote:*On the video, Pia with the crown tried to reach out and showed concern for Ariadna but she couldn’t get past the other candidates who blocked her way. Pia was later led away from the stage.*
I feel sorry for Pia since she couldn't enjoy in her crowning moment

Oh, that's sad... Neutral Poor girl... Crying or Very sad I understand that the other girls were trying to comfort Ariadna, but treating Pia like an enemy is reeeeally mean Evil or Very Mad I can't even imagine how horrible she must felt in that moment...She didn't steal the crown, but won it, you shrews!  -za32- Oh my, that victory must have a really bitter taste... Neutral
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Post  NiKa Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:45 pm

Milka wrote:
jimrey1989 wrote:
marievause wrote:
Wojtek wrote:
Milka wrote:
kleftokotou wrote:I prefere Pia over Andriana no doubt! Watching the crownings and her reaction made me apreciate her more! I hope she will have a great year as MU!!

I actually was dissapointed how Pia handled it.
She didn't even comfort Ariadna or anything.

I get that she was probably just like WTF just happned and felt akward. But in my opinion Pia should have somehow aknowledged Ariandra. Now she just stood there smiling and waiting for the crown to be handed to her. While poor Ariandna is crying.


Yeah, I have a hard time accepting this win. Pia was not among my favourites. And after Paulina she is a huge step down.
I'm sorry it I'm offending someone here. Congrats Phillippines and bonner here, but I'm sorry. Pia just doesn't say Miss Universe to me. Neutral

Couldn't agree more!

i also agree with you on that one! Pia didnt even give Andriana a tap on her back, just stood there. I also agree that she doesnt scream MU. Miss Australia and Miss France were so fresh and more appropriate for the title.  Pia  looks old to me and although she is beautiful, i dont know why, but she looks like she's got a mean face and she also looks plastic to me. For another year running ,its very clear,  who gets to the top 15 no matter if they deserve it or not! And i want that "fan vote" to go away and never come back. The reasons were explained before...

pia attempted to approach her, but adriana was sorrounded by the ladies...know the other part of the story. and later on in the press conference expressed her sadness for adriana

Yeah, AFTER she got the crown. I'm talking about when Ariandna still had the crown and sash on and Pia walked beside her. She said and did NOTHING!!! Absolutely nothing. She just stood there a long time smiling and waiting. PAULINA was the one who then camed and acted very respectfly trying to calm down the audience and tapped both of their backs.

Look it again, Pia did absolutely nothing. She just looked confused and then started smiling. Nothing on her facial expressiond or body language at THAT moment said that she felt bad for Colombia. It was only after she saw that Ariandna started crying that she tried to approach her.

She was in shock, so she acted spontaneously following the impulse. Yes, she was smiling, but is it a crime? I think every single girl's first reaction would be pretty the same after knowing that she won.Accept it or not, but it's a natural thing, an instinct. You can't control it Wink  After all they all are competing in MU, because they want to win the crown, right? Wink  But as you said when she saw that Ariadna is crying she tried to comfort her. I think it was the moment when the first shock went by and she realized that her dream comes true at the expense of her fellow contestant's one and felt compassion for her, but unfortunately she didn't have a possibility to express it thanks to other 'kind' candidates...
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Post  darkvindak Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:51 pm

NiKa wrote:
darkvindak wrote:lol people stop blaming Pia, she was shocked, for God Sake

Exactly! -za32- Her only 'fault' here was that she was a rightful winner... Rolling Eyes Hello?! She wanted to gave back the crown even if being MU was her biggest dream! It's unfair to blame the girl for accepting a gift from faith which she rightfully deserved! Evil or Very Mad  

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Post  kleftokotou Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:40 pm

darkvindak wrote:
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darkvindak wrote:lol people stop blaming Pia, she was shocked, for God Sake

Exactly! -za32- Her only 'fault' here was that she was a rightful winner... Rolling Eyes Hello?! She wanted to gave back the crown even if being MU was her biggest dream! It's unfair to blame the girl for accepting a gift from faith which she rightfully deserved! Evil or Very Mad  

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Post  Milka Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:39 pm

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I don't like the fact that you're trying to make Pia a bad one here, guys.... She is as same victim of human's mistake as Ariadna is in this story. She also had to face with the shock and mixed feelings and keep the game going on while everything was live  show.... She didn't play Mother Threresa in front of the cameras, but the fact that she wanted to gave back the crown shows that she had a lot of doubts and really feels bad for Ariadna. I think she behaved much better than Ariadna is now who can't accept the fact that she's not the winner here and trying to be in the spot light... It shows which one has more humility

Pia didn't want to give the crown back Laughing
And there is no reason why she should have needed to give the crown back.

A mistake was made and corrected, and naturally Pia is now the rightfull winner.

Speaking for myself here, I'm not trying to make Pia look bad. I was just writing my thoughts on what happened. I already admitted that she was probably like WTF just happened. But in any case I think she could have at least approached Ariadna and comfort her. But the whole time they were waiting for Paulina arrive she just stood there and did nothing. I didn't like that.

ANd that is my honest opinion on that situation and how I saw it. Sorry.

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Post  scotty2hotty Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:52 am

The pageant is still being discussed on the news here in the USA. They are now saying Steve Harvey missed most of the final rehearsal and was in the casino gambling and drinking. Another report is that the font on the card was too small for him to read. Another report blames the teleprompter.

One thing is for sure, Miss Universe has not been in the news so much in years. Free publicity!
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Post  kleftokotou Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:12 am

scotty2hotty wrote:.......

One thing is for sure, Miss Universe has not been in the news so much in years. Free publicity!
It makes me wonder if it was really a mistake!!!
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Post  jimrey1989 Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:30 am

Milka wrote:
NiKa wrote:
I don't like the fact that you're trying to make Pia a bad one here, guys.... She is as same victim of human's mistake as Ariadna is in this story. She also had to face with the shock and mixed feelings and keep the game going on while everything was live  show.... She didn't play Mother Threresa in front of the cameras, but the fact that she wanted to gave back the crown shows that she had a lot of doubts and really feels bad for Ariadna. I think she behaved much better than Ariadna is now who can't accept the fact that she's not the winner here and trying to be in the spot light... It shows which one has more humility

Pia didn't want to give the crown back Laughing
And there is no reason why she should have needed to give the crown back.

A mistake was made and corrected, and naturally Pia is now the rightfull winner.

Speaking for myself here, I'm not trying to make Pia look bad. I was just writing my thoughts on what happened. I already admitted that she was probably like WTF just happened. But in any case I think she could have at least approached Ariadna and comfort her. But the whole time they were waiting for Paulina arrive she just stood there and did nothing. I didn't like that.

ANd that is my honest opinion on that situation and how I saw it. Sorry.

ur ideal is different from pia's ideals, likewise ur instincts is different from hers, even if pia approach colombia, their is a language barrier, adriana can not understand english. and besides, they need to be prim and proper onstage as it was live.

it is also my opinion and its how i view after hearing both sides of the story..

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