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Donald Trump Has Words For Transgender Miss Universe contestant
bonner Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:13 pm
Donald Trump has fired back at Jenna Talackova, the Canadian transsexual beauty queen who mired his Miss Universe pageant in controversy, and her high-powered attorney who is demanding the beauty pageant be open to all contestants, even those born male.
“I think Jenna should focus on running up in Canada and seeing how she does in Canada and then, if she does well, she has a chance to become what many, many young women all over the world want to be and that’s Miss Universe,” Trump, whose company owns the Miss Universe and Miss USA pageants, said today on “Good Morning America.” “That should be her focus.”
Talackova, 23, was selected as one of 65 finalists in the 2012 Miss Universe Canada competition but was disqualified Friday because she was not a “naturally born female.” The Vancouver-born Talackova was born a male but had sexual reassignment surgery at age 19.
Days after the disqualification drew worldwide headlines, the Trump organization Monday said it would not attempt to keep Talackova out of the competition.
“The Miss Universe Organization will allow Jenna Talackova to compete in the 2012 Miss Universe Canada pageant provided she meets the legal gender recognition requirements of Canada, and the standards established by other international competitions,” Michael D. Cohen, Trump’s executive vice president and special counsel, said in an email statement announcing the change.
But the change was not enough for Talackova and her attorney, Gloria Allred, who called the statement “confusing” in a high-profile news conference Tuesday in New York. Talackova wants pageant organizers to go further and drop eligibility rules she calls discriminatory.
“Mr. Trump, admit that you are wrong and get rid of your Trumped-up rule,” Allred said during the news conference.
“I did not know that she had a lawyer and especially Gloria Allred,” Trump said today. “In fact, had I known it was Gloria Allred, I probably would not have reversed my decision because, you know, Gloria is easy to beat.”
“The fact is we went by the laws of the country and the laws are very clear and, based on that, about two days ago, we decided to let her compete,” he said of his organization’s decision.
The winner of the Miss Universe Canada title, who will be crowned May 19 in Toronto, will go on to represent Canada in the Miss Universe Pageant later in the year.
Because the international nature of the pageant means future transgender contestants would have to abide by laws in their respective countries, Trump acknowledged the organization might have to, in the future, cede to Talackova and Allred’s calls for a blanket policy that would supercede all laws.
“We’ll probably have to open it up … because if it’s in Canada and if it’s in the United States, in terms of their laws, and if other countries don’t necessarily have those laws, it wouldn’t be fair just to take certain countries,” he said. “So we’ll probably decide – we haven’t made that decision yet – but we’ll probably decide to open it up.”
Talackova and Allred avoided questions during Tuesday’s news conference of whether she will compete if the rule is not eliminated before this year’s Miss Universe Canada pageant.
The blonde beauty’s birth certificate, passport and driver’s license reflect that she is a woman, Allred said during the news conference. They believe that should be enough for the competition.
“I want Mr. Trump to state that this rule will be eliminated because I do not want any other woman to suffer from the discrimination that I have endured,” Talackova said during the news conference.
The beauty queen has not tried to hide her past. In a 2010 YouTube video for Miss International Queen, a transgender-transsexual competition in which Talackova was a contestant, she stated that she began hormone therapy to become a female at age 14.
“We’re going by the laws of Canada and the laws of the United States and they’re really very clear,” Trump said. “I hope she does well.”
ABC News’ Jennifer Abbey contributed to this report.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/04/donald-trump-has-words-for-transgender-miss-universe-contestant/#.T32Wl8PIUHI.facebook
“I think Jenna should focus on running up in Canada and seeing how she does in Canada and then, if she does well, she has a chance to become what many, many young women all over the world want to be and that’s Miss Universe,” Trump, whose company owns the Miss Universe and Miss USA pageants, said today on “Good Morning America.” “That should be her focus.”
Talackova, 23, was selected as one of 65 finalists in the 2012 Miss Universe Canada competition but was disqualified Friday because she was not a “naturally born female.” The Vancouver-born Talackova was born a male but had sexual reassignment surgery at age 19.
Days after the disqualification drew worldwide headlines, the Trump organization Monday said it would not attempt to keep Talackova out of the competition.
“The Miss Universe Organization will allow Jenna Talackova to compete in the 2012 Miss Universe Canada pageant provided she meets the legal gender recognition requirements of Canada, and the standards established by other international competitions,” Michael D. Cohen, Trump’s executive vice president and special counsel, said in an email statement announcing the change.
But the change was not enough for Talackova and her attorney, Gloria Allred, who called the statement “confusing” in a high-profile news conference Tuesday in New York. Talackova wants pageant organizers to go further and drop eligibility rules she calls discriminatory.
“Mr. Trump, admit that you are wrong and get rid of your Trumped-up rule,” Allred said during the news conference.
“I did not know that she had a lawyer and especially Gloria Allred,” Trump said today. “In fact, had I known it was Gloria Allred, I probably would not have reversed my decision because, you know, Gloria is easy to beat.”
“The fact is we went by the laws of the country and the laws are very clear and, based on that, about two days ago, we decided to let her compete,” he said of his organization’s decision.
The winner of the Miss Universe Canada title, who will be crowned May 19 in Toronto, will go on to represent Canada in the Miss Universe Pageant later in the year.
Because the international nature of the pageant means future transgender contestants would have to abide by laws in their respective countries, Trump acknowledged the organization might have to, in the future, cede to Talackova and Allred’s calls for a blanket policy that would supercede all laws.
“We’ll probably have to open it up … because if it’s in Canada and if it’s in the United States, in terms of their laws, and if other countries don’t necessarily have those laws, it wouldn’t be fair just to take certain countries,” he said. “So we’ll probably decide – we haven’t made that decision yet – but we’ll probably decide to open it up.”
Talackova and Allred avoided questions during Tuesday’s news conference of whether she will compete if the rule is not eliminated before this year’s Miss Universe Canada pageant.
The blonde beauty’s birth certificate, passport and driver’s license reflect that she is a woman, Allred said during the news conference. They believe that should be enough for the competition.
“I want Mr. Trump to state that this rule will be eliminated because I do not want any other woman to suffer from the discrimination that I have endured,” Talackova said during the news conference.
The beauty queen has not tried to hide her past. In a 2010 YouTube video for Miss International Queen, a transgender-transsexual competition in which Talackova was a contestant, she stated that she began hormone therapy to become a female at age 14.
“We’re going by the laws of Canada and the laws of the United States and they’re really very clear,” Trump said. “I hope she does well.”
ABC News’ Jennifer Abbey contributed to this report.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/04/donald-trump-has-words-for-transgender-miss-universe-contestant/#.T32Wl8PIUHI.facebook
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Re: Donald Trump Has Words For Transgender Miss Universe contestant
dakkudaddy Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:19 pm
I'm against transgender competing in MU or any pageant it's not fair for any body it's totally bullshit & crap
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Re: Donald Trump Has Words For Transgender Miss Universe contestant
reyna_USA Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:51 pm
I agree with u!!dakkudaddy wrote:I'm against transgender competing in MU or any pageant it's not fair for any body it's totally bullshit & crap
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Re: Donald Trump Has Words For Transgender Miss Universe contestant
bonner Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:07 pm
if MU Canada allow her to compete why not (but they must have qualification for the title hat only born female can win and the highest placement she can get was the 1st runner up) but a transexual competing in Mu is a no no
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JEANP Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:10 pm
Personally for i totally don't cakre if a transgender or not compete. Born male or born female the result is that she is a true girl and now and so for it's normal to accept transgender at beauty pageant.
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Re: Donald Trump Has Words For Transgender Miss Universe contestant
bonner Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:15 pm
JEANP wrote:Personally for i totally don't cakre if a transgender or not compete. Born male or born female the result is that she is a true girl and now and so for it's normal to accept transgender at beauty pageant.
we have hundreds of transgender here as well as Thailand... if this rules will accpeted then transgender might be the representative of Thailand every year ...
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Re: Donald Trump Has Words For Transgender Miss Universe contestant
reyna_USA Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:21 pm
They have beauty pageants for these people (transgender) and he/she may now be a girl (OUTSIDE) but inside still a man. And rules are rules.JEANP wrote:Personally for i totally don't cakre if a transgender or not compete. Born male or born female the result is that she is a true girl and now and so for it's normal to accept transgender at beauty pageant.
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Re: Donald Trump Has Words For Transgender Miss Universe contestant
bonner Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:24 pm
reyna_USA wrote:They have beauty pageants for these people (transgender) and he/she may now be a girl (OUTSIDE) but inside still a man. And rules are rules.JEANP wrote:Personally for i totally don't cakre if a transgender or not compete. Born male or born female the result is that she is a true girl and now and so for it's normal to accept transgender at beauty pageant.
Donald Trump must create a pageant
Miss Universe Transgender
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JEANP Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:26 pm
bonner wrote:JEANP wrote:Personally for i totally don't cakre if a transgender or not compete. Born male or born female the result is that she is a true girl and now and so for it's normal to accept transgender at beauty pageant.
we have hundreds of transgender here as well as Thailand... if this rules will accpeted then transgender might be the representative of Thailand every year ...
and so ?
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bonner Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:06 am
Trump: “Miss Universe will welcome transexuals from now on” - On ABC-TV’s 20/20 tonight (Friday), Donald Trump — interviewed by Barbara Walters — confirmed that Jenna Talackova can compete in the Miss Universe Canada pageant, and if she wins, can go on to compete in the Miss Universe international pageant, respresenting this country. Trump also confirmed that women who have transitioned can compete in Miss Universe pageants in the future.
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They must Create a Miss Universe Transgender Pageant must better"
==========" And what is now the Essence of being a Woman
"They must Create a Miss Universe Transgender Pageant must better"
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bonner Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:34 pm
(Reuters) - The Miss Universe pageant is changing its rules and will allow transgender women to take part in all of its competitions starting in 2013, the organization and gay rights group GLAAD said on Tuesday.
Tuesday's decision follows a media outcry over the disqualification of Canadian contestant Jenna Talackova from the upcoming Miss Universe Canada contest because she was not a "naturally born female."
Talackova 23, who underwent gender reassignment surgery when she was 19, was reinstated to the Canadian competition last week by businessman Donald Trump, who owns the Miss Universe organization. Talackova has a Canadian passport, driver's license and other documents that identify her as a woman
Following consultations with the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD), Miss Universe "discussed a policy change that includes transgender women in time for the start of this fall's 2013 pageant season; a time when most of the competitions around the world begin to take place," the two groups said in a joint statement.
The change brings Miss Universe into line with other groups that have taken a stand against discrimination of transgender women, including the Olympics, the Girl Scouts of America and TV show "America's Next Top Model", GLAAD said.
"We have a long history of supporting equality for all women and this was something we took very seriously," said Paula Shugart, president of the Miss Universe Organization.
The exact language, which will abolish the long-standing rule that contestants must be "naturally born females," is still being worked out, officials said.
National beauty pageants are currently being held around the world to chose contestants to compete in the 2012 Miss Universe contest, to be held later this year.
(Reporting By Jill Serjeant
Tuesday's decision follows a media outcry over the disqualification of Canadian contestant Jenna Talackova from the upcoming Miss Universe Canada contest because she was not a "naturally born female."
Talackova 23, who underwent gender reassignment surgery when she was 19, was reinstated to the Canadian competition last week by businessman Donald Trump, who owns the Miss Universe organization. Talackova has a Canadian passport, driver's license and other documents that identify her as a woman
Following consultations with the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD), Miss Universe "discussed a policy change that includes transgender women in time for the start of this fall's 2013 pageant season; a time when most of the competitions around the world begin to take place," the two groups said in a joint statement.
The change brings Miss Universe into line with other groups that have taken a stand against discrimination of transgender women, including the Olympics, the Girl Scouts of America and TV show "America's Next Top Model", GLAAD said.
"We have a long history of supporting equality for all women and this was something we took very seriously," said Paula Shugart, president of the Miss Universe Organization.
The exact language, which will abolish the long-standing rule that contestants must be "naturally born females," is still being worked out, officials said.
National beauty pageants are currently being held around the world to chose contestants to compete in the 2012 Miss Universe contest, to be held later this year.
(Reporting By Jill Serjeant
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JEANP Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:07 pm
In fact it should be better to have only female born but if thrans are accepted well i'm happy for them and it will be good.
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reyna_USA Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:05 pm
Whatever!!!!!!! 
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